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The Walmart Black Friday Strike Comes to a Store Near You.

On Black Friday, one of the busiest shopping days of the year, shoppers will be greeted by demonstrations in support of striking Walmart employees at hundreds of Walmart stores across the country.

 

The intent of the demonstrations is not to discourage shoppers from shopping at Walmart but to bring to their attention that those low prices they enjoy have a cost and that cost is the horrendous working conditions of Walmart employees.

 

Walmart’s unfair treatment of its employees is legendary: poverty wages; insufficient hours, most employees are not full-time even though many stores are understaffed; no overtime pay; inadequate or no health insurance; and no holiday pay despite the fact that stores are forcing their employees to work from 7:00pm on Thanksgiving to 4:00am on Friday and then return to work at 7:00am.

 

Walmart has been sued in the past for forcing employees to work off the clock and other wage-theft activities and their virulent anti-unionism has resulted in law suits for unfair labor practices.

 

Walmart has been brilliant in the art of socializing their costs and privatizing their profits. By paying their employees poverty level wages Walmart gets the public to subsidize a major part of their business expenses. The average salary for a Wal-Mart employee is less than $9.00 an hour. Even at $9.00 and a forty-hour work week - and almost no one gets forty hours - that would come to an annual salary of $18,700 which is $5,000 below the poverty line for a family of four. Whenever a Walmart employee uses food-stamps to feed his or her family, or puts their children on Medicaid or uses the emergency room for lack of health insurance the American public pays the bill in higher taxes.  With 1.4 million workers the Walmart tax bill is in the billions of dollars.

 

Walmart‘s success as a standard setter for low-wage employers feeds one of our country’s long term economic structural problem: the growing inequality of income and wealth and the resulting increase in poverty. And a new study shows that Illinois now ranks fourth among states in the growth of income inequality.  This should be of particular concern to residents of Will County where the fastest growing work-force is warehouse workers whose working conditions, as the recent strike against the Walmart warehouse in Elwood exposed, are even worse than those of Walmart retail employees. Communities in and around Will County cannot prosper if  its fastest growing work force makes less than a subsistence wage. This is an intolerable situation and cannot continue.

 

Walmart‘s business plan has made Walmart one of the most successful businesses in the world and made the Walton family fabulously rich. But their business and financial success has come at an appalling cost to their employees and to society in general.

 

This coming Friday, Warehouse Workers for Justice and their supporters will gather at Sacred Heart Church, 329 S. Ottawa St., Joliet at 8:00am and then caravan to a Walmart somewhere in Will County to show support for all striking and non-striking Walmart workers across the country.

 

Ron Kurowski

 

Visit us at:

 

http://southsuburbanmoveoncouncil.weebly.com/index.html

Genvieve LaChappele

7:12 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

Mcdonald's doesn't even pay that much. Are they evil too? These companies don't owe anything to anyone. If you want a higher pay rate make yourself worth one. Nobody is forcing anyone to work there. When can we be responsible for our own outcomes in life? Figures this comes from move on. Without walmart poor families would have to pay much more for their goods.

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Linda T

11:35 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

Evil is in the eyes of the beholder.

On the way to my brother-in-law's retirement party a couple weekends ago, we passed a sign saying McDonald's was selling the McCrap. Then I realized I read the sign wrong - it was McWrap. Oh well, same thing, even pronounced the same.

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Jann Swanson

2:05 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Just how do you make yourself worth a higher wage when no one is paying one? It is bad enough to see corporations so profit driven they are willing to treat their employees like cannon fodder, depriving them of a decent wage and the ability to care for their families while paying extravagant salaries and benefits to management. More amazing and disheartening is to see people like Genvieve who have so absorbed the propaganda of the Republican Party and Fox News that they actually support that agenda.

Formereastside

8:02 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

I know people who have worked at walmart - always given less than 20 hours in order to avoid insurance costs. If you want to go to school the manager will look for reasons to fire you. One girl needed to leave early to pick up a sick child from school Her manager wouldnt allow her to go so she forced herself to vomit in order to leave work.

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Michael M.

10:55 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Total lies from you. The number of hours an employee works has no bearing on whether or not they get insurance. Insurance is given as a benefit, and it is up to the employer, regardless of hours. Of course that all changes with the stupid Obamacare, which will cause more people to lose jobs and their insurance.

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OakLawnBill

11:40 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Michael M. is completely wrong. Obamacare does not effect part time employees. I am sure he is used to it by now. Obamacare also makes it less expensive for those companies that want to offer health insurance.

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Michael M.

11:53 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

It does not affect part time employees, but it does affect full time employees. Enployers are already cutting employees hours to less than 30 hrs per week in order to avoid having to pay for insurance. The Obama care law cut off is 50 employees or more and those employees working 30 hrs or more. So employers will cut you to part time and you will lose your insurance. Way to go Obama and the rest of you who voted for this crap. I also work in healthcare for more than 25 years. I nurses who have already had their hours cut, we also had our meetings about how Obamacare will work, and if you think your healthcare will be the same or better, you have a rude awakening coming to you. For example, the best stent for heart disease will no longer be used unless you can pay out of pocket for it, Obamacare does not pay for it (about $2500.00), so you will get a less effective stent, which means you have a 40% chance of having that same artery close again and having another cardiac event, versus having only a 1 to 2% chance with the best stent. You will be back at the hospital with your second cardiac event, which means it will cost more money, which will drive healthcare prices and insurance up. You get what you voted for, enjoy!!!

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Formereastside

12:32 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

This isn't a lie - if you work a minimum of 20 hours your employer must offer you a healthcare package. If you work under 20 hours the employer is not obligated to off healthcare.

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Michael M.

12:48 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Formereastside- Show me where there is any federal law that requires an employers to give you health insurance based on the number of hours you work. I think you are mistaken. Only Hawaii requires it, and that is a state law, not federal. Now when Obamacare goes into full force employers will be required by fed law to provide insurance to employees who work 30 or more hours per pay period. So employers are just going to cut employees to 29 hrs or less, as they have already started to do.

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lala

9:30 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012

Some of the school districts use the less than 20 hour tactic to avoid insurance while paying extravagant salaries and benefits to management.

Linda T

11:37 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

Last week PBS played a documentary called "Park Avenue: Money, Power & The American Dream," on its series "Independent Lens," (one of the best things on television in my humble opinion.) I feel everyone in the country should watch the film, and you can see it here free: http://www.hulu.com/watch/417228

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SouthSide

12:50 pm on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

I watched it on PBS. I cried. It was a very good documentary and I encourage all to see it.

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Michael M.

10:56 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

PBS is an arm of the leftist and socialist movement. They are not an unbiased source.

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OakLawnBill

11:41 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Michael M. is completely wrong again. No surprise. Public radio gives complete news stories.

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Linda T

11:46 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Independent Lens shows independently-produced documentaries on a variety of subjects. The documentaries they show aren't produced by PBS, just aired by them, and carry the opinions and biases of the independent writers/producers who make them. Most of the documentaries are film-festival award winners.

No one is unbiased, but if we choose to, we can all seek out information from a variety of sources, which I prefer to do. It's easy, and often lazy to slap a label on a point of view and dismiss it, or alternatively, take it at face value, especially if we haven't taken the time to explore it thoroughly.

I examine the merits of different viewpoints for myself and see the merits of a diverse variety of viewpoints on both ends of the spectrum and everything in-between, keeping in mind both ends of the political spectrum have been co-opted and corrupted by greed, money, and power. My political views are a mix of left, right, and center. While I'd like to see more than two viable political parties, I can see the value and respect the merits of both, while disagreeing with aspects of both.

Sorry, but there is no one right way to see things. We can though, do our best to gather facts, be respectful of viewpoints even when we disagree, and form balanced opinions that can even be open to change based on more information and changing circumstances. Or not. We can just slap a label on it and go about our own business, which works just fine for many people as well.

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Michael M.

12:42 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Linda T - PBS picks which shows they air. If I produced an independent negative documentary about Obama, they would choose not to air it.

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Linda T

12:58 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Well, of course they do, just like every other network chooses what they air.

PBS, and public radio for that matter, have not been all glowing about Obama and you might know that if you chose not to dismiss it. PBS and public radio have exposed and discussed problems with both major political parties. Like I said, being dismissive is easy. You're not going to narrow my perspective, and it's unlikely I'll broaden yours. That's ok with me - thankfully we're fortunate enough to live in a country where, at least last time I checked, we are free to have our own points of view.

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Michael M.

2:58 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

You are free to say and think whatever you want. I would never want to limit anyone's speech or thought. But, I also have the right to my speech and to let people know when I believe they are wrong. You won't understand until you start to lose some freedoms, I bet you won't be happy when we have to start paying the global UN tax. http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/news/policy/wess2012.html

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Linda T

10:51 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Trust me MM, I'm quite aware of the illusion of 'freedom' and the continual erosion of what little we actually have. I also know it's been going on for a long time under administrations of both parties.

Emily

11:59 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

Big Box doesn't have to be the enemy. I saw CNBC did the "CostCo Craze" and they treat their employees very well.

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SouthSide

12:51 pm on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

I wouldn't shop at Walmart if it was the last store on earth. They sell garbage, they pay garbage, they treat their employees like garbage.

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Michael M.

3:04 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

The shop somewhere else, you have that right. Aren't you glad that you have that right?

Genvieve LaChappele

6:36 pm on Tuesday, November 20, 2012

When I was a single mom walmart was the only place i could afford. I never had a problem with any of their products. From kids clothes to diapers to formula I saved huge amounts of money. I am grateful for their low prices. When you are poor you see it differently. Nobody is forcing anyone to work there. Everybody will be cutting hours now to beat the rules of the new healthcare law. I don't like it either. You cannot and will not control behavior.

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R Gibbons

12:05 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

So, Genvieve, you think that is fair what Walmart is doing to their employees and you support them in their efforts. Here is an excerpt from Corporate Walmart regarding the History and Dream of Sam Walton, founder of Walmart:
"Sam credited the rapid growth of Walmart not just to the low costs that attracted his customers, but also to his associates. He relied on them to give customers the great shopping experience that would keep them coming back. Sam shared his vision for the company with associates in a way that was nearly unheard of in the industry. He made them partners in the success of the company, and firmly believed that this partnership was what made Walmart great."
Apparently, this vision died with Sam Walton in 1992.

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Linda T

12:54 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

My kids are grown but money was tight when they were young. Their clothes came from garage sales, 2nd hand shops, and hand-me-downs. They were nursed and wore cloth diapers. I saved huge amounts of money, they didn't suffer, and they grew up to be wonderful human beings with strong values.

I'm not saying that as a criticism, just saying there are many different ways of seeing, poor or not.

It's the most democratic thing in the world - voting with our dollars. Personally I prefer not to support companies run by billionaires among the richest on the planet whose fortunes are made on the backs of the working poor and slave labor in third-world countries. No, I can't control their behavior, but I sure can choose not to support it. That's my right and I'll continue to exercise it by choosing carefully where my money goes.

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OakLawnBill

11:42 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

You are doing well keeping employment in China high.

John Paul

6:32 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

If Wal-Mart paid their employees more, they would have to raise thier prices and poor people couldn't afford to shop there. If you rely on a Wal-Mart job as your family's sole source of income, the problem is your, not theirs. Working at Wal-Mart is good for a second (or third) income. Older people on pension or Social Security work there, people work there to supplement their spouse's income and you also see alot of young people working there. This is giving them valuable experience to help them get better jobs down the road. Besides, if this was such a terrible place to work, they wouldn't be able to hire anyone, and that doesn't seem to be a problem for them, does it?

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OakLawnBill

11:44 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

That is why 4 individual owners are all on the weathiest American list. They could still easily have more money than can be spent in a lifetime and offer better pay and benefits to their employees.

Arthur Huff

8:31 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

A few things...
First, Walmart exists because of their lower prices. If they raise their prices to pay people more two things will happen: fewer people will shop there, and people will lose their jobs. I am by no means rich or anything close to it, but for me the discount isn't even worth going to the Walmart in Orland Hills. That place is a dump. So raising their prices would just add another nail to that coffin for me.

Second, the writer of the article says twice that Walmart pays "poverty" wages. Have you ever heard of minimum wage? That is the amount per hour that Walmart is legally obligated to pay someone. I am well aware that minimum wage is not enough to support a family of four, but I don't think that it was ever intended to.

Third, the writer mentions that Americans are paying for Walmart employees food stamps, hospital visits, and Medicaid through higher taxes. You are a progressive so do you really expect me to believe that you have some moral problem with one person paying for another through their taxes? Come on!

If you really want "justice" for these people then maybe you should rally for an increase in minimum wage. That would help all the people out there who are making "poverty" wages at part-time jobs. You may be surprised to know that there are a lot of them out there, not just at Walmart.

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Michael M.

10:59 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Raising the minimum wage will cost employers to reduce the work force. The more employers have to spend the less they have to hire employees.

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Arthur Huff

11:15 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

I know Michael. I was being somewhat rhetorical with that statement. Unfortunately, sometimes people can't see past these issues and understand that there are unintended consequences to everyone getting paid more.

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leo

2:05 pm on Thursday, November 22, 2012

#1 If Walmart paid higher wages, they would pick up their own employees as customers. It would more than offset any customer loss from slightly higher prices.

#2 Minimum wage is not a living wage, especially if you are always getting less than 40 hours a week.

#3 Conservatives can't have it both ways: Medicaid and food stamps can't be horrible problems that unfair support lazy people, but acceptable for Walmart employees to use to compensate for low wages. It's not right for a company that makes that much profit to pay it's employees so poorly. What ever happened to the idea of investing in the people who work for you and are the faces of your company?

tmarc75

10:27 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

I love shopping at Wal-Mart.

Unions are obsolete.

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Michael M.

10:57 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Unions are just screwing themselves.

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Mike F.

11:27 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Do you have tomorrow off? If so, thank unions.

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Mike F.

11:36 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

I suppose you also blame the unions for taking away your precious Twinkies and completely ignore the fact that because of inept management, they went into bankruptcy twice in eight years and executives rewarded themselves with huge pay raises. "I got mine, ---- you."

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Michael M.

12:44 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

unions had nothing to do with having tomorrow off. That was a federal law passed back when FDR was president, he kept changing the date so congress made a law to avoid the confusion. Unions spout off that many of the benefits we enjoy is from them, but it simply is not true. No I am not off, I will be on call for the hospital. Thanks Unions!!

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Michael M.

12:45 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Fangman, you would take the pay also if you had the chance. Wait, are you one of those guys that refuse their raise because someone else is not making as much as you? I bet not.

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Walt Wingo

12:20 pm on Thursday, November 22, 2012

Michael M. --"unions had nothing to do with having tomorrow off." Hey, Mikey, your lack of understanding of federal law and holidays and the history of how unions help build the middle class is pathetic!

There are no federal laws which require private employers to give their employees a federal holiday off with or without pay. There is no federal law which requires an employer to pay their employees extra pay for working on a federally designated holiday. These benefits were won by workers, mostly in unions, fighting and striking and sometimes dying for every work benefit that people like you, who are the real 'takers' in our society, enjoy.

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Michael M.

1:12 pm on Thursday, November 22, 2012

Hey Walt- Unions had nothing to do with Thanksgiving becoming a holiday. I never said there was any federal law requiring you get a day off work. Employers choose to give you the day off. All you are doing is spouting progressive talking points. Unions have severed their purpose, and no doubt they had some influence in many of the benefits we have today, but the union leaders, not the members, have become corrupt and drunk with power. They get rich and give union money away to politcos who in turn give union leaders great deals on pensions that can't be paid. Wait until Illinois can't pay the union pensions that are due to public workers, do you think the likes of Andy Stern or Richard Trumka will care? No, they already have their millions, but the members will have no pension.

I love how you call me a taker. How do I take from anyone? I pay all my own bills with money I earn from my 2 jobs, I feed my family with that same money, I give to charity, I take nothing from the govt or from you. And I pay a ton in taxes and I am middle class and we are going to pay even more in taxes and so will you.

Michael M.

11:02 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

If you do not want to make $9.00 per hour then do something about it that will improve yourself so that you can make more money. Go to school, work hard like the rest of us. Don't try to force people to pay for you because of the bad life decisions you may have made. These progressives are not trying to help anyone, they just want to push an agenda.

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Mike F.

11:28 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Um, just a reminder: there are other TV channels besides Fox News.

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Arthur Huff

11:49 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Hey Fangman, is it possible that someone who disagrees with this article and the progressive writer who penned it just happens to disagree with him and isn't a fan of Fox News? No offense, but you probably won't win many arguments if you use the typical playbook every time.

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Mike F.

11:53 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

He called PBS "an arm of the leftist and socialist movement" earlier. That's pretty much the modus operandi of the average Fox News viewer.

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Michael M.

3:06 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

I watch PBS, MSNBC, CNN, FoxNews, and many other news sources. I even blog on the Huffington Post, I like to be well rounded and versed in my politics because no one news source has all the facts. So be careful about judging a person

Formereastside

12:40 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

I don't understand people "beating up" on the Walmart workers saying they are losers etc... at least they are working - trying to get ahead and not just sitting on their couches watching TV. They should be able to protest for better pay/better hours. The Walmart owners could do a little profit sharing or stock dividends to the employees during high profit quarters. I am not understanding all the hate and disrespect for these employees.

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Linda T

12:49 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

I'm with you - we could all do with more mutual respect for each other. The world would be a better place if we could all at least try to see things from the perspectives of others. We are all in this together, like it or not. Peace, and Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

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Michael M.

3:03 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

I respect all of your opinions, but you're still wrong. Mutual respect does not change any of the facts, and I am not going to sugar coat something so that you can "feel good" about yourself or your situation or our political process.

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Linda T

10:58 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Wow - that's a lot of power you (think you) have, MM if you actually believe anyone needs your "sugar coating" of "facts" in order to "feel good" about "themselves or their situation."

Concerning the political process, anyone who "feels good" about it with or without your "sugar coating" regardless of which major party's agenda we're speaking of, hasn't done their homework.

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Michael M.

12:33 am on Thursday, November 22, 2012

Linda T- I have no power, Why does it always have to be about power or authority? I prefer everyone make their own decisions. I just think the facts should be offered so that people can make informed decisions. I am speaking of the sugar coating that in general is offered by the media or anyone who talks about politics or thinks that being PC is the way to communicate. I am just saying that I am not going to sugar coat it as compared to others. You do not have to agree with me, or like what I say. All I ask is that you respect my right to express my opinions and to offer them for public consumption.

PS-I am a conservative and I think you would be truly surprised by what conservatives actually believe, if some of you would take the time to engage in actual conversation.

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lala

9:35 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012

The employees at the New Lenox and Homer store are great. Always helpful and never had a problem with them.

anthony

12:45 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

For a decade walmart has spent big money ,used secret agents, acted in a manor not in the best interest of the community in order to keep unions out... I would say such events is a reaction to such deviltry...

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Rick Drew

3:33 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Sure Walmart takes advantage of it's employees, but no more than many MANY small businesses. I worked at a place that instituted a "job appreciation day" - they required all employees to work one day a month without pay. You could skip it, but then no Christmas bonus, no raises, etc. They were too small to notice.

Attempting to unionize Walmart? Why? Labor unions are in it for the union - not the employee. Trade unions serve a valued purpose. Labor unions just raise prices and make union bosses rich.

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Tommy O'Toole

5:12 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Hilarious!! Michael M is a 'tool' for corporate greed masking itself in patriotism and the 'American Way.' Funny thing is, he doesn't even know it. Our corporate culture pits working people against working people and goofs buy into 'well, poor people wouldn't be able to shop there if they paid more, provided better benefits, had better working conditions.' Oh, then I guess poor people would be starving in the streets or picking up road kill for their food? Those employees are being selfless and sacrificing their economic success for the poor...HA!
How about working people standing up for themselves and supporting each other. Same lines Swift and Armour used to use in the stockyards - 'if you don't like it, find something better.' Problem is, there isn't anything much better out there. Unions fought for a century to better the condition of the working man and woman-now they are villified for providing their workers with a living wage/benefits/sick days/pensions. It's working man against working man, taking poverty level wages while those at the top laugh and say 'sucker' to the goofs like Michael M who do their bidding (for no pay or benefits, mind you).
A reckoning is coming. That reckoning will not be the 'fiscal cliff' used to scare people-it will be the majority of people in this country who are being screwed over who will take what is theirs. Oh wait, nahhh-things will not change. Bread and circus people, bread and circus.

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Michael M.

9:19 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Someone drank too much kool-aid.

Tommy O'Toole

9:31 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Maybe the invisible hand will save us all??????

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Genvieve LaChappele

10:40 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Only corporations can be greedy, never politicians. I get it now.

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Bob F

11:39 am on Thursday, November 22, 2012

Well, you cared enough to respond, Emily!! Happy Thanksgiving!!!

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Emily

10:06 pm on Thursday, November 22, 2012

You're assuming I am a liberal. I just stated no one cares where you shop. You're not that important.

Juvenal

2:11 pm on Thursday, November 22, 2012

<<no holiday pay despite the fact that stores are forcing their employees to work from 7:00pm on Thanksgiving to 4:00am on Friday>> FORCING them? Are they not free to break the chains of bondage and find a job with better pay and better work conditions? No? Oh, you mean there are no other employers willing to hire them? Then why should WalMart pay them any more, or treat them any better, than the law requires. Seriously folks, this is how markets work. I fully support an educational strike so people can make informed decisions, but the fact is the market has already spoken. People who want better jobs than Wal Mart associate need to get beter skills. Period. This is the 21st century global economy folks, and there are 100 million other people in the US (and 4 or 5 billion in the world) who also lack skills and would happily take that Wal Mart job. Only solution is to get some skills or get some entrepreneurial spirit and start your own business, or you have a bleak economic future. Period.

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lala

9:26 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012

Strikes are undertaken by labor unions during collective bargaining. How can these employees strike if they are not unionized?

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tmarc75

9:40 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

Hey Mike Fangman -

Unions accomplished great things - in the 1960s. Nowadays, unions are obsolete.

P.S. my father lost his job when Hostess went out of business - the Teamsters aren't paying his miortgage. Thanks Unions!

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Mike F.

10:57 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

Yeah, and the management that led them into two bankruptcies in eight years yet still could find the money to give themselves pay raises, had absolutely nothing to do with Hostess going under.

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